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1. I’m glad I’m not the only person who thought Tyrie was being an asshole first, screaming at Davis and demanding that he get out of the hot tub so they could “talk.” Yeah RIGHT I’d walk right up to a huge screaming guy to “talk” after he just took off his shirt. You KNOW that taking off the shirt is a sign that he’s about to kick your ASS.

   Yeah, Davis was provoking him in the end, but only after Tyrie made it clear that he really wanted for there to be a physical altercation with Davis. I don’t at all blame him for trying to provoke Tyrie, if it was either provoke him and get him kicked off the show OR live in the house with that tension all season.

   Comment by Kelly — December 6, 2006 @ 9:30 pm

2. What has happened to The Real World? It used to be a pretty decent show. Now, all it is is a bunch a drunk crazy people running around fighting, crying, and/or sleeping with eachother. There is usually one or two “after-school special-like” shows but the rest is such a waste.
   As for Tyrie… he is crazy! He should have been sent home for his actions!!!!And for everyone to tkae his side is crazy! he sought out Davis and started the whole thing AND over something that has nothing to do with him. It was Stephen. Didn’t y’alls parents teach you that someone is always going to be making fun or saying something to you. GROW UP DENVER CAST!!!

   Comment by Dev — December 7, 2006 @ 9:15 am

3. how typical of the society we live in today..Tyree goes in and starts trouble with Davis…calls him every name in the book…and then when Davis calls him the “n” word all of a sudden people are offended..It can’t be both ways…you can’t be offended by a certain word…while at the same time calling someone else every offensive word one can think of…The rest of the show was devoted to how what Davis said was so wrong..yet nothing was said about the names Tyree called Davis..it’s rediculous.

   Comment by johnny — December 7, 2006 @ 10:02 am

4. Real World is so friggin stupid now. I am black and I was outraged by Tyrie’s behavior last night, and Stephen’s little homophobic attitude. I can’t stand these Real World producer’s giving black people a bad name by putting the craziest black people on the show. Tyrie really made a fool out of the entire black race last night. He should have been sent to jail for his behavior. He was totally in the wrong and then to get all that pity from everyone. Those two black boys need to go. I am quite offended watching the whole show and hope it gets canceled now. The mixture of homophobia and racial insults. How should a homo-sexual African American feel watching this crap!

   Comment by Jerry — December 7, 2006 @ 10:27 am

5. Also, I feel that Davis was totally in the right and was totally screwed over. F you Tyrie and F you too Stephen for making a fool out of black people last night. Poor Davis!

   Comment by Jerry — December 7, 2006 @ 10:29 am

6. Tyrie definitely initiated and started the whole incident. But Davis definitely exacerbated the whole situation with his behavior. Stephen,despite his disgust for homosexuals, actually tried to mediate the situation and forgave Davis for using that word.
   I think the roommates will definitely place some blame on Tyrie after watching how it airs. But at the end of the day, there is no justification for using the n-word. Tyrie and Stephen are just 2 of the 40 million black people in America. Using that word offended not just them but all black people. I am black myself and I was shocked by Tyrie’s behavior, but I was equally shocked by Davis.

   Comment by Karen — December 7, 2006 @ 11:12 am

7. And how does Tyrie and Stephen make fools out of all black people? By that logic Davis’ behavior made Christian whites look like fools as well.
   But really the situation has ended, on the After Show Davis said that him and Tyrie forgave eachother for their behavior and they are close friends. Plus in the previews next week, someone calls Davis a f@# and Tyrie stands up for him.

   Comment by Karen — December 7, 2006 @ 11:17 am

8. I am trying to figure out how everyone can just feel so sorry for Davis. Yeah Tyrie may have started the situation with no tact, but the following actions taken by Davis were in fact the rediculous ones. Who runs at angry people and insist on being hit? You could see that Tyrie was never going to hurt Davis, he just wanted an explanation from him, and I am sure everyone knows how hard it is to get a reasonable explanation from a drunk person. Davis trying to provoke Tyrie to hit him, when it was clear he was never going to was a friggin joke. How many times did Davis keep trying to confront Tyrie when Tyrie was trying to cool down? And once he saw that his antics were not working, he went down to the level of dropping the “n-bomb” to get the result he was looking for.
   There are a bunch of names that people are called, but everyone knows that the use of the “N” word pronounced with the “r” at the end is only used to be hurtful and get a violent reaction. Davis even admitted that was his reasoning for using it.

   Comment by LC3 — December 7, 2006 @ 11:36 am

9. jerry u are a sell out uncle tom and tyrie should of beat davis straight i think u people are just judging and making comments that dont even matter so hear are the fact if ur white fine but if you drop the n word around me, tyrie, or any one i know then be ready to be punished just like davis 23 year old crying punk ass was i mean come on tyrie just yelled at the cotton ball and davis gets all dramatic and crazy come hit me hit me knowing damn well if tyrie would of layed a finger on him he would have tyed to sue or send him to jail instead of fight him like a real man size or whatever but anyways thats all blogers so im out o.ne. omaha nebraska BlTCH

   Comment by wow — December 7, 2006 @ 1:31 pm

10. This episode is EXTREMELY and Painfully condensed. How is it that about an hour and a half (or the first three episodes) focused on this weird threesome between the housemates but something as severe as a housemate leaving over a racial slur barely warrants a half an hour?
    There was so much more that happened in the course of this incident (I know from personal experience) and I am truly disappointed at its portrayal because it makes Ty and Davis look ridiculous.

    I think that Davis was completely wrong. Period. I think that Tyrie overreacted. Period.

    The most hurtful thing that I see is that people watching this show are having a hard time differentiating the WRONG that happened. And based on some of the comments that I’ve read, SOMEHOW Davis was justified in using the N-word because Tyrie “got in his face” and Stephen at one point “thought that it’s wrong that he’s gay.”

    there is NO justification for anything leading up to davis’ use of the word and tyrie’s actions prior to.

    I hope that the show improves because these story lines, the editing, and some of the people who watch the show are a joke.

    Comment by Amy K. — December 7, 2006 @ 3:07 pm

11. haha…could “wow” be more of a hypocrit…you talk about how you’d “beat someone down if they say the N word in front of you”..2 sentances after using the term “cotton ball”..but then again…after seeing the lack of intelligence that oozed from the rest of your blog im not surprised that you see things the way you do..as i said in my previous blog..how typical..
    ….of course they were both wrong in the episode…anyone who thinks one of them was right is a fool…i just think it’s hilarious that someone can stand and shoot names from each hip at someone like Tyree did…and then all of a sudden be so offended by a word that someone else says….its a joke to me..and all the “swelling up” he did was for the camera…Tyree is one of those “im gonna tell ya how bad im gonna beat ya, but never actually do it” guys.

    Comment by johnny — December 7, 2006 @ 4:26 pm

12. I was appalled that the cast members took Tyrie’s side after he provoked a confrontation with an inebriated Davis. I smelled the distinct odor of homophobia in how Stephen blamed Davis for something he knew nothing of, and then got Tyrie overstimulated. Tyrie came at Davis like a thug, and triggered gaybashing alarm bells when he threatened the recovering fundementalist who’s surely had people attacking him because he’s gay. Davis reacted badly, but that’s what fear of homophobic violence often does. This was disgraceful; the queer boy gets blamed when someone else pushes his buttons too hard.

    Comment by Don Gorton — December 7, 2006 @ 7:45 pm

13. None of the names Tyrie called him were as severe as the n-word. And with Davis being gay there are definitely words Tyrie could have used to insult Davis on the same level as the n-word.
    Plus Tyrie wasn’t even in the vicinity when Davis used the n-word. Davis was in the phone room just yelling.
    Bottom line..this episode should serve as a public service announcement for alcohol abuse. And if Tyrie and Davis can make amends within a half hour, maybe the rest of the world could take note.

    Comment by Karen — December 7, 2006 @ 8:53 pm

14. Okay - Let’s get this straight:

    Saying the word “Bitch” and “Ass” does not, I repeat DOES NOT equal the N word.

    What the N word equals? Derogatory terms associated with ethnic groups. Using the word “fag”. Etc. Etc.

    The historical associations alone with the N word alone constitutes a LOT. And I don’t give a damn how much our culture today uses it, does not make it any less bad or as usable as other curse words. Because the N word was meant to silence and isolate a certain ethnic group based on race and if it arises, it means that those connations are associated to those people who its used against. That is, when you call someone the “N” word its tantamount to saying you are a Sambo dancing, fried-chicken loving, illiterate, worthless person in society.

    That said, the actions on both parties weren’t at all the best we can hope for in society. Let’s not use these people to represent us as females, our race, or our sexuality. They are not meant to be as such since they are individuals who have their own faults and issues. Yes, Tyrie admitted that he was an asshole. Yes, Davis was beyond drunk and Tyrie should have let it go.

    But even if you are drunk, using any derogatory term against anyone still hurts and should not be simply chalked up as proper vengeance.

    That is why I don’t believe that when someone says ‘and then all of a sudden be so offended by a word that someone else says….its a joke to me..”

    It’s not all of the sudden that the N word has had these historical connotations. It’s not all of the sudden or long ago that African-Americans have had to literally fight to get equal treatment in law. And I would think the fact that Tyree and others did not resort to violence shows something about maturity. Yes, he was out of control so when he shows restraint, we’re supposed to boo him for “not backing up his words?” What is this? Real World: Gang Style?

    Let he who cast the first stone live in a glass house.

    Comment by Anne — December 8, 2006 @ 12:46 am

15. I actually can say that i was embarrassed for the fuel that Tyrie placed in the fire of tension that whites and blacks already share…many white people already feel that blacks are aggressive and loud but to see how quickly Tyrie displayed this sterotype made my skin crawl as a black woman.

    I also feel that even though the quick temper began the situation, Davis definately took the fight to the next level by following him around and asking him to strike him…not only strike him, but calls him the n-word…that is not the same as calling someone an ass, or a bitch…it’s insulting an enite race of people…not only that, but you hear Davis in the begining refering to Stephen and Tyrie as the “black” guys, why does that matter?…the reason blacks tend to end situations like these with the “race” card is because they tend to begin with them.

    Comment by shayree — December 8, 2006 @ 5:00 pm

16. I hear you, but note that Tyree and Stephen both are heard referring to the “black guys”.

    Comment by Marlow — December 8, 2006 @ 6:11 pm

17. ok you ppl are funny… this show did just what it was suppose to do… it got you all watching… Ty’s reaction… Davis’ racism… all staged and edited for the viewer. You can waste your time trying to analyze it all, but it just comes down to ‘they doing it for tv’ cuz quite frankly i don’t even see why it all got so escalated. Stephen is really the little punk ass talking about his roommate left him, get a freakin’ life.

    Comment by Kat — December 8, 2006 @ 9:39 pm

18. Wow… It’s relieving to hear some SANE responses after watching the show, and listening to that weakling Saul squirm around for 20 minutes on the web aftershow interview. Saul, watching you go on about how wrong the n-word is makes me sick… Yes, it’s a horrible word, and Davis shouldn’t have said it, but it was a very minor point in the Davis-tyree fight. I really believe, from what I saw, that Davis was exhausted at that point after having his life threatened repeatedly by a huge dude who could potentially follow through with his threats. I would love to see you, and your pansy demeanor, deal with that situation. Tyree also repeatedly labeled Davis, calling him a “punk-ass white boy bitc*.” My word, Davis showed a lot of restraint if you ask me. Let’s take it from the top. Stephen, who seems to have a power need, and is way close-minded and self righteous, gets upset because the club manager called him the n-word. That’s understandable. How hurtful, and horrible. But, then he goes home, and seemingly pins the whole thing on Davis, who is MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS in the hot tub. Davis was not involved, didnt know about what happened, and didn’t say anything to offend stephen. davis was just drunk. Oh, and by the way, no way should davis have apologized for his drinking problem. He didn’t do anything, or hurt anybody, and drinking had nothing to do with the issue at hand, which is that Tyree threatend to KILL davis. Thats not an exaggeration. I’d like to see anybody else be “chill” when an imposing dude like tyree says he wants to beat the shi* out of you. It was as though he was willingly making himself the scapegoat to avoid further conflict with tyree, who he was understandably scared of. NONSENSE. Anyhow, back to stephen. Stephen sparked the whole situation by blaming davis for nothing. Then Tyrie became completely irrational, and confronted davis. Good for davis, for not submitting to his BS… Its tough to not cower when a guy like tyree goes ballistic on you. Davis, you showed some guts, and some patience for taking it for at least a while, which you shouldnt have to do in the first place. So, thats pretty much the story. The SANE story. One more thing about stephen. You did not act like a leader that night. That’s what you’re trying to esatblish yourself as. You were the president at howard, good for you. Well, where were you when tyree went off to attack davis because of your melodrama. Its melodrama because you were getting upset at Davis for no reason. The n-word thing is understandable. You let the whole thing happen. You were probably shi**ing your pants at the thought of trying to jump in and calm tyree down. Then you try and step in afterwards, and mediate a situation that you COULD HAVE DIFFUSED by taking responsibility for saying some inflammatory, baseless shi*. What kind of leader shows himself by taking a piss on his house, and then showing up the next day with a brave face and a mop? You’re shaky, man. Not to mention that you get so upset about the N-word, yet your biased at davis for his homosexuality. Davis’ analogy was dead on when he said to you “So, it’s not ok for me to be gay? Thats like me telling you that it’s not ok to be black.” There is a genetic predisposition to be gay, as far as we know. Even if there wasn’t, the analogy still holds. Who are you to tell someone who they can and can’t be? Especially when you base it on extremely rigid, one-sided beliefs. Religion is always a shaky subject. I respect the potential for it to be a positive for in giving people direction. Shi*, no I don’t. Religion has historically always been a crock, the right hand of the government to wield power over the masses. Shall I name a few examples…? Don’t get me started. I don’t take religion very seriously, and you’re actions are a good example of why it’s good to practice moderation when it comes to religious devotion. Ur a hypocrite. Should be self-explanatory. And, a good amount of religious people share the following qualtities: close-mindedness (what they believe is devotion to faith), self-righteousness(thinking that your damn views, based on a book written by a collection of humans just like us, are superior to all the other possibilities), and an inflated sense of personal development (thinking that you’re more mature, intelligent, capable, astute, whatever than everybody else). Anyway, I am being pretty critical, but those are the issues I saw. There are nice things about stephen and tyrie too, but thats for another time. Colie, u bitc*, think before u rush off to placate ur undeserving “teddy bear” next time…. Ho.

    Comment by jason — December 9, 2006 @ 1:56 am

19. one more note about the n-word, since its gotten so much of the spotlight. Davis shouldn’t have said it. However, I do believe him when he said it out of anger. Anger that stemmed from tyree threatening him. Anger that was his way of getting back at tyree in whatever way he could. That aside, I do believe that he is somewhat racist. Hes from atlanta, he says “those black people.” Shayree’s right, why should black matter. I think that Davis may have lived around people who think of blacks as inferior. When a person is really shaken up, he shows his core. When davis was shaken up, he called tyree black as though it is a derogatory term. I take that as Davis trying to gain control of the situation by putting tyree down. For him, putting tyree down meant calling him black because, where davis is from, he’s accustomed to hearing people to blacks as inferior. Yet, I think that davis is honest, and not racist. When shaken, a person reveals himself. Davis was strong, yet sensitive. He was crying for god’s sake. He was enraged at tyree for doing that to him. More importantly, he didn’t hate tyree for being black, he was enraged because tyree came after him. Davis would have reacted the same way if that guy were white… hands down. He would have used a different epithet to get at him, but it wouldn’t have meant much. Just like his n-bomb didnt mean much.

    Comment by jason — December 9, 2006 @ 2:16 am

20. so, to sum up the davis being a racist thing…. He’s “racist” in the sense that he has grown up in a culture that looks at blacks as inferiors. Yet, he’s not “racist” in the sense that he hates black people. That’s what I was trying to say.

    Comment by jason — December 9, 2006 @ 2:31 am

21. What’s the deal with all the Stephen hate here? Yes he was upset at Davis at first, but only because he felt betrayed. After he and Davis talked, Stephen said he realized that Davis did not ditch him and they were cool again. It was only after Davis used the “n word” that Stephen became upset with him again.

    It is obvious there was tremendous editing in play here, but all 3 of the guys have some degree of blame.

    Stephen - started the whole thing with his misunderstanding of Davis’ actions
    - later acted completely rationally after him and Davis got back on the same page

    Tyrie - completely escalated what could have ended much easier if he just approached Davis in a non-confrontational matter

    Davis - continued to drunkenly come at Tyrie and provoke him after Tyrie walked away from him repeatedly
    - used a racial slur after the situation appeared to be calming down

    Overall, it appears that Stephen will be the good guy from this season. He was given the harsh edit with the first couple episodes with regard to his perceived homophobia. However, he has been shown repeatedly talking to Davis and making an effort to understand him.

    He took the time to forgive and talk to Davis right away after the incident. If he truly was homophobic, then he would have used that incident as an excuse to hate Davis for the duration of the show.

    I actually wonder if his original anger toward Davis regarding the incident wasn’t caused more by religion than homophobia. Davis considers himself Christian, yet his actions during that whole incident did not appear very Christian-like. That might have been what was truly bothering Stephen, because he had the same reaction of being unimpressed when Alex and Jenn were talking about their one night rondezvouz.

    Comment by EDogg — December 9, 2006 @ 3:25 am

22. ok, first off…it isn’t anyones place but Davis’s to say what words are more offensive to him than others. No one But Davis knows if he was as offended as Tyree….Yes we are all familiar with slavery in this country and how it has negatively affected America…so thanks for the history lesson.. I just can’t get past the fact, and it is a fact, that African Americans in this country use the offensiveness off the “N” word as a crutch. Never will i believe that a person could be so offended by a word that they themselves, and their peers, call each other everyday. Yes, i know you’ll say “it matters who says it”…and “it depends on the context in which it’s used”..please…are we serious with this?..the word either offends you or it does not offend you..the fact that the “n” word is still used in this country at all , BY ANYONE, to me is the disgrace..and really…don’t waste your time trying to “explain” how it is different when african americans use it..i’ve heard all that…i just don’t agree with it and think it may be the most rediculous piece of rational i have ever heard…As far as “booing Tyree for not backing up his words”…that isnt the case…he shouldnt be boo’d for not backing them up…the boo’s are for making the threats in the first place..to be honest i thought davis showed alot of restraint when Tyree came to the hot tub demanding that he get out and talk to him (about something that had nothing to do with him i might add)..yes, later on davis lost his freaking mind..which was also done for the cameras..just as all the swelling up and taking clothes off to show off his guns that tyree did was…the entire thing was a joke…they were both idiots and playing for the camera..neither of them really wanted to fight…and my guess is that neither of them really know how to begin with..”bad asses” dont stand and tell you how they are gonna whip you for an hour…they just do it.

    Comment by johnny — December 9, 2006 @ 6:50 am

23. I believe that the only reason that Tyrie didn’t kick the sh*t out of Davis was because he didn’t want to go home.

    This comment is specifically referred to the last comment that “johnny” made: ANYTIME that the N-WORD is used IS OFFENSIVE. If you are NOT African Americen, which is made painfully clear by your previous statements, there is no way for you to really and truly understand the offense and anger (among a wealth of other emotions) that one feels when they are called by it. It’s almost as if you’ve been slapped in the face and had the wind knocked out of you at the same time: you don’t know how to react or what to react to.

    Obviously, you need another history lesson because the ones that are given about slavery, post-civil war era, and the civil rights movement did not give you a fraction of the understanding that it should have.

    At the very least, I hope that you can grasp the fact that yes the majority of African Americans will continue to be offended by the N-word. Moreover, all African-Americans do not use the N-word either playfully or painfully.

    Comment by Amy K. — December 10, 2006 @ 12:10 pm

24. you are right “amy k”…i am white..and i dont know what its like to be black and be called that word…just as i dont know how davis felt to be called any of the 20 or so names that tyree called him…my message was only to say that its typical in this country for people to assume that the “n” word is the only thing that can offend someone..and that because in their mind being called a bitch…or any of the other offensive names that he called davis somehow isnt as bad..just because it doesnt offend you doesnt mean that someone else wouldnt be offended by it..the same people who say i have no right to say that tyree shouldnt be offended because i am not black are saying that davis shouldnt be offended because those words “dont have the same offensiveness”..which is the definition of hypocracy….im sure that not every single african american uses that word..obviously..but for you not to admit that more do than not, especially in the age group that we are talking about , is simply sticking your head in the sand and hiding from the truth…i am from indianapolis, which has a pretty large population of african americans, and of those that i meet 90% of them refer to each other as “nigga” …it may not be what you would like to hear..or admit to..but it is a fact..my only point is the hypocracy…you can’t call each other a name day in and day out..and then expect people to buy that you are so offended that it has shaken your very core when someone who’s skin happens to be a different color than the last person who called you that does…i think anyone who believes this to be rational is a fool.

    Comment by johnny — December 10, 2006 @ 4:38 pm

25. “Punk ass bitch” is every bit as bad as the N-word. “Punk” is a slang term that refers to a male prisoner who is passed around from man to man within jail as a sex slave, traded for money and drugs. The “punk” is the anal-receptive person in jail rape. This term has a long history of use against gay men in the United States.

    Comment by David J. — December 11, 2006 @ 1:38 pm

26. I don’t see Stephen as a “good guy.” He is more like Iago in Shakespeare’s Othello, or a Pharisee in the New Testament. Why did he blame Davis for something that wasn’t his fault? Why did he get Tyrie all riled up? I strongly suspect homophobia had something to do with Stephen’s motives. It is distressingly obvious that some of the folks on this blog who are calling, appropriately, for racial understanding, are unenlightened themselves when it comes to accepting gay white boys from the South.

    Comment by Don — December 12, 2006 @ 9:40 am

27. Get a life Tyrie. If all you “n’s” quit calling yourself the n-word, I will too.

    Comment by Bohemus — December 13, 2006 @ 7:52 am

28. hey that,S WHY IT IS CALLED THE REAL WORLD REAL PEAPLE LIKE YOU I AND OTHERS ALL HAVE AN OPION BUT IPERSONALLY WOUD NOT CHANGE A THING UNLESS SOMETHING GET OUT OF HAND REMEMBER IT IS CALLED THE REAL WORLD AND THATS HOW WE ALL ACT .

    Comment by shawna m. — December 13, 2006 @ 9:03 pm

29. AND ANOTHER THINNG THIS IS TO THE REAL WORLD CAST JUST CONTINU BEING YOURSELVES YOU MAKE IT REAL.

    Comment by shawna m. — December 13, 2006 @ 9:09 pm

30. I think theres enough blame to go around on all three of them but Stephen pretty much instigated it… why does Davis need to be there for Stephen in the first place?
    it wasnt his fight and had nothing to do with him in the first place and last i remember Stephen was having a hard time accepting Davis for who he is so why would Davis all of a sudden jump to his rescue?
    i know if i was in that situation i sure wouldnt be going up against no bouncer for using a racial epitath against some guy who cant accept me for who i am.
    what was Davis supposed to do anyways?
    give him a shoulder to cry on? beat up the bouncer?? i dont have anything against Stephen personally especially since he seems to be willing to be open minded to a degreee.

    Comment by cure — December 17, 2006 @ 12:50 pm

31. Davis why did you want to leave for?

    Tyrie why were you so angry at davis?

    Comment by michelle say's — January 4, 2007 @ 6:45 pm

32. Hey Michelle, get a life!

    Comment by Bohemus — January 9, 2007 @ 7:07 am

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